1805 London Spoon - Bird Feeding Nestlings

Post by **Granmaa** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 9:48 am

I have too many examples of crests to post here, so I will only post the most interesting or the ones that seem to be most easily identifiable. I would also be interested to know of any books which are useful in crest identification. There is of course Fairbairn's, but I have not been able to identify a single crest with it.

This crest is from an 1805 spoon.

Miles

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Post by **dognose** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:48 am

Hi Miles,

I believe that crest is representing the 'Pelican in her piety', legend has it that the pelican when short of food will stab herself and feed her young on her own blood.

See:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelican

Trev.
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Post by **dognose** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:30 am

Hi Miles,

Lumley (the chicks are still there), but curiously had the chicks not been present the the crest would have been that of Gyles. Why she should be stabbing herself when there are no chicks to feed is a mystery to me, I suspect there is some hidden meaning there.

Trev.
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Post by **Granmaa** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:05 pm

Thank you for identifying these crests, Trev. Can I ask which book you used?

Miles
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Post by **dognose** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:51 pm

Sorry Miles I meant to put that in the last post, those images came from John Peter Elven's wonderful book 'The Heraldry of Crests' published in 1829.

Available to view thanks to Google Books at:

http://books.google.com/books?id=9HP2rE ... q=&f=false" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Trev.
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Post by **admin** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 2:39 pm

Hi Miles,
Found this:

Vulning - Wounding; in the act of wounding. This term is applied more particularly to the pelican, which, when shown in profile, is generally represented as wounding her breast.

This google books search will turn up some alternate family names.
http://books.google.com/books?lr=&as_br ... arch+Books" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Regards, Tom

ps. search gets 115 returns in the U.S., I'm curious as to how limited the returns will be in the U.K.?
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Post by **dognose** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:08 pm

Hi Tom,

A mere 18!

Trev.
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Post by **admin** » Thu Oct 15, 2009 4:45 pm

18, that is a pretty sad turnout!

not sure, but this may provide a solution to the blockade.
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