I need help !

[laurentiu]

Hello there !
Please help me to identify this hallmark ,I'm lost in details.
Many thanks and best regards !

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[silverport]

Crescent (= Silver), Crown (= German), 800 (= minimum fineness) - Maker's mark is missing.

Hello »laurentiu«

Welcome to the Forum.

On yours little box you've, is the since 1 January 1888 usual indication of: Be made in Germany from a silver alloy of minimum fineness of 800-1,000.

Maker's mark is missing, or not shown from you; so it's impossible to define the maker.

It's a kind of »Kleinsilberware« (little object, be made from silver), which were produced e.g. in Hanau and Pforzheim, but almost in Schwäbisch Gmünd.

Kind regards silverport

[laurentiu]

Good morning Sir,
Thank you very much for answer , really apreciated.
I can't find a specific maker mark , soo,I'll try to attach few more pictures ,in case this will help to find the maker of my object.
Best regards.
Laurentiu C.

[silverport]

Anonymous maker — made between 1890 — ????

Hello »laurentiu«

Thank you for yours additional photos!

Sorry, but they don’t help me — it’s not yours fault, but mine. Because I don’t collect all; so I don’t know all!

Yours little box is made in a hotchpotch of details; to be very decorative, and to catch the attention of possible clients. There fore were also added some non precious stones — from the producer maybe these ones are buy in Idar, or in Oberstein (today: Idar-Oberstein), German centre of preparing »Stones«.

If you like to clean it up, to make it shine, please don’t use the method of “aluminium foil and hot water with soda”.

Please look trough this group of topics »Silver Care / Techniques«:

http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=34" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Sorry again, that I couldn’t help you with the place or name of maker.

Kind regards silverport

[laurentiu]

I hope this one will work :
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[silverport]

The "mark" (?) is so dirty, that it needs clairvoyants expertise for identification!

Hello »laurentiu«

Sorry, I've never been a clairvoyant; and I hate to destroy my eyesight for the negligence of others, and their home made incapability.

A person, who could buy these items, could also buy a loupe and a reasonable camera.

Please, clean the “mark” and make a clear photograph — then after come back with a brief description, what do you “see” there, and the new photo file in a clip = only the mark!

Please read this topic: http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 61&t=19420" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Here you could find another brief explanation in German language: http://silberpunze.piranho.de/Silber/WF" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... nahmen.JPG

Kind regards silverport

[laurentiu]

Dear "silverport",
My apologize for this inconvenient but I'm not in business with this kind of things , so, for the future I'll be more precise.
On the mark it looks to be a "A" and a "V" , a dot on top , a small "P" on the left .Honestly , I'm not so sure about it. Also , the mark don't look to fit one of those from the site presentation.
With all due respect
Laurentiu C.

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[silverport]

The now shown mark isn’t either a maker’s mark — but an Import mark.

Hello »laurentiu«

If you had in brief described the mark as now, then I had a more sounded, but not final guess; by assistance from the marks contour and yours description.

You state: »Also , the mark don't look to fit one of those from the site presentation.« Please look here:

http://www.925-1000.com/Faustria_menu.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
and here (scroll to about the middle = »... Small marks«; then look to the right colum):
http://www.925-1000.com/Faustria_02.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It is not a maker’s mark — but an Import mark from the Assay Office of Schemnitz (hence the P2 as indication there fore). I don’t know if you know that the main Hungary Assay Office was then settled in Pest, indicated with the letter P. In yours photo isn’t shown clear enough, that it is only a letter P, as you stated; I "see" a letter-cipher combination P2.

Please would you confirm yours P, or my guess of P2.

P = Pest Assay Office, Hungary; P2 = Schemnitz (hung.: Selmecbánya; slov.: Baňská Štiavnica) Assay Office, Slovakia.

This mark is only an indication, that the item is »imported to Hungary from some where else«. It’s not any indication of origin, or a warranty of fineness! It’s struck only, if the fineness of the items basic material is of minimum fineness for silver in Austria-Hungary — and that was then: 800-1,000.

This mark was in use from 1901/1902 on, until 1 May 1922 — so the box was made some where in Germany, by an unknown producer, made and assayed before 1 May 1922.

Sorry, more I wouldn’t do for you — if you like to know more, please make your own research; then, for sure, you would learn a lot!

Kind regards silverport

[laurentiu]

Many thanks for your time and help. Near letter P ,looks to be a 2 .
All the best -Laurentiu C.