Unidentified mark possibly Scandinavian

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rscherzer
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Unidentified mark possibly Scandinavian

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Thank you hose_dk. Here is a related spoon, 5" or approx. 13 cm long related to the larger spoon above. The stippled engraving of the E.K.J. on this spoon is identical to that on the larger spoon above which measures 9" or approx. 23 cm long. However the hallmarks, if that is what they are, are different. One of the marks appears to be a Danish mark of towers and the other appears to be letter PAII. Thank you for any assistance you can provide.

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Re: Unidentified mark possibly Scandinavian

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Though it doesn't look it, I think the city mark here is the three-masted sailing ship of Tønder, Denmark, known in German as Tondern, formerly in the Duchy of Schleswig and, until the post-WWI Schleswig Plebiscites of 1920, part of Germany. "PAH" (not PAII) would be Peter Andreas Hansen (1786-1855), citizen in 1836.

I'm sure hose_dk can confirm or refute.
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Re: Unidentified mark possibly Scandinavian

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Thank you again Blackstone. Now that I look at the mark it does appear to be a three masted ship and the II an H. What I am trying to do is determine how these two spoons and two that I posted a year ago (january 16,2010) are related as all descended from the same person. The two from a yr ago (photos are gone) were given as awards in a shooting contest in Trondheim, Norway, then part of Sweden, in the early 1800's. One spoon was made in Trondheim and the other in Denmark. Was this a custom in Scandinavia to award large spoons to winners of various events? And why would a spoon made in Denmark be sold in Norway/Sweden? Does any one have any thoughts on this, if you have the time.
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Re: Unidentified mark possibly Scandinavian

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I was there yesterday but did not write of 2 reasons. The masters mark is not fully correspondent, and city mark. 3 towers versus the ship.

So instead of writing - I went into thining mode.
Most likely you have given correct answer. Marks can vary and the marks in the book - are not a fully register, but those marks known when the book was made in the 80ties.
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Re: Unidentified mark possibly Scandinavian

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Tønder danish for centuries many centuries until 1864. 1864 to 1920 Germany.
1920 onwards Denmark.
Norway was a part of Denmark for many centuries. Norwegian silver tradition is the Danish style and regulations.

And yes a spoon is a very likely present in a shooting contest.
As well as a reward for many years of loyal service.
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