l cannot find this maker, has any body any idea please ?
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Nigel
Riding Crop London 1908/09
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Hi Nigel,
Just guessing, but I wonder if that may be one of the marks used by James Smith & Sons of New Oxford Street.
Hopefully someone will confim/deny.
See: http://www.james-smith.co.uk/history.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Just guessing, but I wonder if that may be one of the marks used by James Smith & Sons of New Oxford Street.
Hopefully someone will confim/deny.
See: http://www.james-smith.co.uk/history.cfm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Hi Trev
Thanks for the reply, it appears that James Smith a small worker entered his mark in 1877, his son took over as a smallworker in 1881 and then in 1904 the grandsons took over, the mark recorded is JS&Ss in three sizes.
Although the grandsons were called Thomas and Robert, they kept the name of the company as James Smith and sons, their business was Gold and Silver stick mounters operating from "exculsive" London addresses.
With all this information is it possible for this mark to be a missing mark? l am intrigued by this matter and look forward to any suggestions.
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Nigel
Thanks for the reply, it appears that James Smith a small worker entered his mark in 1877, his son took over as a smallworker in 1881 and then in 1904 the grandsons took over, the mark recorded is JS&Ss in three sizes.
Although the grandsons were called Thomas and Robert, they kept the name of the company as James Smith and sons, their business was Gold and Silver stick mounters operating from "exculsive" London addresses.
With all this information is it possible for this mark to be a missing mark? l am intrigued by this matter and look forward to any suggestions.
Regards
Nigel
Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09
Should James Smith & Sons be our man, then here's an advertisement from them published in 1896:
James Smith & Sons - London - 1896
Trev.
James Smith & Sons - London - 1896
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Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09
Hello Nigel
The mark was registered in 1905 by James Schomberg & Sons who were whip manufacturers at 10 Long Acre WC.
The mark is shown in John Culme's Directory of Gold & Silversmiths 1838-1914 Vol II page 205 at item 10092.
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Mike
The mark was registered in 1905 by James Schomberg & Sons who were whip manufacturers at 10 Long Acre WC.
The mark is shown in John Culme's Directory of Gold & Silversmiths 1838-1914 Vol II page 205 at item 10092.
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Hi Mike
Thanks for your reply, it appears that l need Culmes Directory, (yet another book)
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Nigel
Thanks for your reply, it appears that l need Culmes Directory, (yet another book)
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There again just seen the price !!! l think l will stick with Grimwade,Jackson and Fallon for the time being
Nigel
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Re: Riding Crop London 1908/09
Thanks Mike for solving the mystery.
Source: Kelly's Directory of the Leather Trades - 1885
I do not think I need say anything more about whips or horns except to mention that Messrs. Callow & Son, of 8, Park Lane, Piccadilly, and Messrs. Swaine & Adeney, of 185, Piccadilly, are, so far as my knowledge goes, the best whip-makers, although there are, no doubt, others who do their work in a first-rate manner. I have bought whips of James Schomberg, 122, Long Acre, who makes whips his speciality, and who has given me perfect satisfaction.
Source: Highways and Horses - Athol Maudslay - 1888
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Source: Kelly's Directory of the Leather Trades - 1885
I do not think I need say anything more about whips or horns except to mention that Messrs. Callow & Son, of 8, Park Lane, Piccadilly, and Messrs. Swaine & Adeney, of 185, Piccadilly, are, so far as my knowledge goes, the best whip-makers, although there are, no doubt, others who do their work in a first-rate manner. I have bought whips of James Schomberg, 122, Long Acre, who makes whips his speciality, and who has given me perfect satisfaction.
Source: Highways and Horses - Athol Maudslay - 1888
Trev.