Japanese silver Dragon pourer or Coffer pot , Hallmark mark

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silversurf
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Japanese silver Dragon pourer or Coffer pot , Hallmark mark

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Hello again , Great Forum. So much help .

This is the only marking , I am looking for once again the maker and trying to see maybe age.

Thank you again =)

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Again, I need a clearer image of the mark to be sure but going on the style of the object, it is very reminiscent of Kan Mao Hsing of Jiujang Province. This maker had a very particular way of using thick wirework of which this is a good example
Get me a clear image and I can confirm
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Thank you ,
Don't think I can do any better then this pic

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As Adrien has indicated, without clearer photos, identification is virtually impossible. Providing the dimensions and weight of the object would also be helpful.

The mark is, of course, the Japanese jungin mark. I can think of no documented example of this mark being applied by the Japanese to an unmarked Chinese work, but I would not entirely rule out the possibility. There also was a fair amount of borrowing designs. See, for instance, the Liscum Bowl by Arthur and Bond, in the Contributor's Notes:

http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 38&t=24259

As these recent posts remind us, there certainly was no shortage of dragons in Chinese and Japanese export silver,they were plentiful enough so that every visiting wizard could bring one home as a souvenir of the Oriental tour. Without a maker's mark, however, the best one can hope for is to find the exact same item with a full set of marks and hazard an attribution. Perhaps with a bit of luck, or magic, one will turn up.

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David R
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20 Cm tall ,
Dragon mouth to handle 26 cm
18 cm cir
873 Grams

I have a matching Tea pot but I can't find it right this sec, In a closet somewhere =)

as far the marks, I don't think it's the picture I think there is wear on the hallmarks them self.

Thank you for helping =D
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Post by davidross »

Thank you for posting this additional information.

I had at first thought this might be part of a larger tea or coffee service. Sometimes, makers only put full marks on the principle pieces and merely marked the remaining pieces with a silver guarantee.

A search for Japanese silver tea and /or coffee services of the Meiji era might turn up a complete set and reveal the maker.

Regards,
DR
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