Can someone please tell me whether these marks are genuine? I recently purchased this Dutch(?) brandy bowl and was informed that it was dated pre-1806.
Brandy bowl
Brandy bowl
Can someone please tell me whether these marks are genuine? I recently purchased this Dutch(?) brandy bowl and was informed that it was dated pre-1806.
Re: Brandy bowl
Hi welcome to the forum.
This month I believe you have asked the same question in the ASCAS newsletter # 113 and you should wait to receive your answer next month. But herewith :
Brandy bowl with a full row of Dutch pseudo or fake marks, probably made in the Dutch province of Friesland or Groningen, at the end of the 19th or early 20th century.
Dutch pseudo marks from left to right; crowns in a shield; pseudo city mark of Sneek, lion rampant in a crowned shield; pseudo standard mark used for 1st standard or ‘grote keur’ in the province of Holland, P crowned; pseudo year-letter, crown above an oak leaf: pseudo maker’s mark and last but not least L under a fat dot; pseudo year-letter for the city of Zwolle used 1798.
Please check your brandy bowl for some official (little) Dutch hallmarks, those could be spread over the bowl and hidden in its decoration.
For some information and history about genuine Dutch hallmarks see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028
Oel.
This month I believe you have asked the same question in the ASCAS newsletter # 113 and you should wait to receive your answer next month. But herewith :
Brandy bowl with a full row of Dutch pseudo or fake marks, probably made in the Dutch province of Friesland or Groningen, at the end of the 19th or early 20th century.
Dutch pseudo marks from left to right; crowns in a shield; pseudo city mark of Sneek, lion rampant in a crowned shield; pseudo standard mark used for 1st standard or ‘grote keur’ in the province of Holland, P crowned; pseudo year-letter, crown above an oak leaf: pseudo maker’s mark and last but not least L under a fat dot; pseudo year-letter for the city of Zwolle used 1798.
Please check your brandy bowl for some official (little) Dutch hallmarks, those could be spread over the bowl and hidden in its decoration.
For some information and history about genuine Dutch hallmarks see:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=32028
Oel.
Re: Brandy bowl
Dear Oel,
Thank you very much for your speedy and very informative reply, although the contents rather sadden me.
I have inspected the item very carefully, but cannot find any marks anywhere else.
This bowl was recently sold on eBay and maybe someone else was making enquiries. This was my first post ever, anywhere!
I paid admin edit read forum rules . Would you keep it or ask the seller to take it back?
Kind regards, Amit
Thank you very much for your speedy and very informative reply, although the contents rather sadden me.
I have inspected the item very carefully, but cannot find any marks anywhere else.
This bowl was recently sold on eBay and maybe someone else was making enquiries. This was my first post ever, anywhere!
I paid admin edit read forum rules . Would you keep it or ask the seller to take it back?
Kind regards, Amit
Re: Brandy bowl
Dear Amit,
We do not advice in such matters, you have the information and it is up to you what to do with it.
Best wishes,
Oel.
We do not advice in such matters, you have the information and it is up to you what to do with it.
Best wishes,
Oel.
Re: Brandy bowl
http://www.ascasonline.org/newsOTTOB113.html
Take care when buying silver supposedly centuries old; the way the handle is cast and almost intact gilding where considerable age wear is expected.