Russian Cigarette Case?

[amodaff]

Can anyone tell me anything about this cigarette case, which I believe is Russian? The scene is from China (1930s?)

[oel]

Hi welcome to the forum, have you showded us all the marks ? Or is 84 the only mark?

Oel .

[amodaff]

Thank you for your reply. 84 is the only mark.

[oel]

I believe the scene to be: buildings and statue on the piazza Regina Elena, former Italian Concession, Tianjin (Tientsin).
If 84 is the only mark it is not Russian or Soviet silver, for the Russian hallmarks see:
http://www.925-1000.com/Frussia.html

The 84 mark was used in Persia for silver 875/1000 fineness and on French silver-plated items to indicate the thickness of the plating. Let us wait for other reactions.

Oel.

[Qrt.S]

If that 84 is the only mark, there is nothing to react on, all has already been said by Oel. But if you insist dear Oel, I share your opinion, it is not Russian silver...if silver at all.

[Zolotnik]

Hi -

I suppose this is socalled "Nagasaki" - silver, mostly known objects are spoons. For the trade with Russians over the border always 84 marked.





Regards
Zolotnik

[davidross]

The OP may want to test the piece for silver purity in light of the information in this thread:

http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 086#p91265

Indeed, this cigarette case may be more appropriately catalogued under CES and the Far East Trade.

Regards
DR

[amodaff]

May I ask what "CES" means?

[davidross]

CES = Chinese Export Silver