Napkin rings help

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shade
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Napkin rings help

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"B & Co into a rectangle
Bewlay & Co Ltd,
The firm was founded in 1797. Eight similar marks entered from 1903 to 1910. Most of them were entered by Baron Elkan, Managing Director. The firm became a subsidiary of Finlay & Co Ltd (tobacconists, confectioners, etc.)
London 1913 hallmark"

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That's the most I've learned about it and I'm not even sure if that's accurate but I can't figure out what the marks on the right are trying to tell me. I just learned what hallmark means today :( lol... not joking.
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Re: Napkin rings help

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Hi welcome to the forum.

For starters see:
http://www.925-1000.com/british_marks.html
London date letter S for:1893
I believe the maker's mark to be for Blow & Co, ; Ferdinand Fekelmeyer & Francis William Lloyd trading as Blow & Co, Gracechurch Street, London. Blow & Co registered the maker's mark at Birmingham, Chester and London Assay Office.
See:
http://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Makers/London-B.html
http://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Make ... ham-B.html
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Re: Napkin rings help

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oel wrote:Hi welcome to the forum.

For starters see:
http://www.925-1000.com/british_marks.html
London date letter S for:1893
I believe the maker's mark to be for Blow & Co, ; Ferdinand Fekelmeyer & Francis William Lloyd trading as Blow & Co, Gracechurch Street, London. Blow & Co registered the maker's mark at Birmingham, Chester and London Assay Office.
See:
http://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Makers/London-B.html
http://www.silvermakersmarks.co.uk/Make ... ham-B.html
Oel.
Thanks so much, I took a closer look and it seems as though there is only 1 dot below the o, I was wondering if that was relevant. Also looking at the lion closely I'm about 90% certain he's looking forward rather than toward the viewer.
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Re: Napkin rings help

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Hi,
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You have to check the standard mark or the Lion Passant in combination with the London city Assay Office mark and relevant date letter. Different date letter cycles of first 20 letters have been used, date letter cycles with upper or lower case letters, Gothic letter cycles, and in combination with different shape of the date letter shield. Different shapes of the London Leopard’s head with crown and later without crown, and different appearance of the lion standard mark and shape of the shield; Lion Passant (looking straight forward) & Lion Passant Guardant(looking left) .
http://www.925-1000.com/silverglossary4.html

Duty mark - Kings Head later Queens Head: in 1784 a duty was imposed on all silver, and was ordained that the representation of the head of the sovereign should be stamped on all plate to show that it had paid the duty. This was continued until 1890.

Looking at the date letter chart below; perfect match, the missing dot in the maker's mark probably due to a worn punch and perhaps the roundness of the surface of the napkin ring.
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NB: BEWLAY & Co Ltd were registered importers, retailers and pipe mounters who were identified in Assay Office's ledgers as "tobacconists", "pipe makers" or "pipe mounters".
http://www.silvercollection.it/DICTIONA ... NISTB.html


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Re: Napkin rings help

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Ah I finally get it! You're awesome, thanks so much :)
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