Please help identify hallmarks on this tobacco box

[scruffum]

This silver box has an old dutch inscription that translates to "I sail like a hero to far off coasts, were it not for money rather to rest and stay on land and keep my comfort and drink a glass of wine and smoke a tobacco pipe"
The corners of the box list the continents (Europa, Africa, Asia, America)
But I am unable to identify the hallmarks above the initials inscribed.
Any advice is appreciated.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ew3zitbfzki0 ... 2nZHa?dl=0

[oel]

Hi, welcome to the forum. Could you please show us an image of the Dutch inscription and are there no other marks?
Your tobacco box

The marks on tobacco box


Could this be the maker's mark? I believe it could read AH above 1 for Alle de Haas, the other marks are fantasy/pseudo marks.
See:
http://www.925-1000.com/forum/viewtopic ... 90#p116738


Peter.

[scruffum]

Thanks for the response and for finding the hallmark from the photo.
I added close up photos of the hallmark to the folder here:

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ew3zitbfzki0 ... 2nZHa?dl=0

It's hard to decipher but the large letter looks like an R (or maybe K)
I also added a photo of the inscription.
Any input is appreciated

[dognose]

Hi,

Welcome to the Forum.

In future posts please embed your images.

Trev.

[oel]

Hi, thanks for the extra images. The maker's mark to me appears to read R above 133 for: Cornelis Rietveld, registered in Schoonhoven 1865/1912.


The "inscription" is not engraved but the text is imprinted. The replica "18th century" tobacco box in appearance not of a high quality and common for Schoonhoven. Made around the turn of the 19th century.
Below another example the maker's mark of Cornelis Rietveld in combination with authentic hallmark and pseudo marks;


Peter.

[scruffum]

Thank you so much for your help
Neal