Hi,
I have a small silver statue (15 cm, 180 gr) which I believe was made in Lisbon (Portugal) at the beginning of the XXth century, but I am not sure.
Does anybody recognize the town mark precisely and also the maker's mark, in order to get an accurate age ?
Here is the statue:
and here are the hallmarks:
Thanks in advance
Dinio
Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)
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Hi Pat,
Tardy's book, which is my reference, represents exactly this kind of crown over an L for Lisbon 1881-1886, but within an ellips, not within the 6-sided polygonal shape which is present on this hallmark. This discrepancy lead me to think that it could be a later hallmark, sometime between 1886 and the beginning of the 20C.
In your references, do you have an exact match with the external shape of the hallmark ?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Regards,
Dinio
Tardy's book, which is my reference, represents exactly this kind of crown over an L for Lisbon 1881-1886, but within an ellips, not within the 6-sided polygonal shape which is present on this hallmark. This discrepancy lead me to think that it could be a later hallmark, sometime between 1886 and the beginning of the 20C.
In your references, do you have an exact match with the external shape of the hallmark ?
Thanks a lot for your help.
Regards,
Dinio
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I see what you mean about the outline of the mark, it is different from Tardy's. I have attached a scan from Jan Divis's book, the marks look the same as Tardy's. I looked through both books, but could not find a similar mark.
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I'm sure someone with more experience with these marks will come along and help you. I deal with mostly American silver.
Regards,
Pat.
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I'm sure someone with more experience with these marks will come along and help you. I deal with mostly American silver.
Regards,
Pat.
Re: Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)
Hi,
I'm informed by a friend who has been reviewing some of the older posts, that the 'crowned L' mark pictured here, is in fact a Brazilian pseudo mark used in the last quarter of the 19th century.
The item is a toothpick holder, a popular item in 19th century Brazil.
The maker 'TAP' is unknown to him, but with the above information in mind, perhaps another member has some thoughts?
Trev.
I'm informed by a friend who has been reviewing some of the older posts, that the 'crowned L' mark pictured here, is in fact a Brazilian pseudo mark used in the last quarter of the 19th century.
The item is a toothpick holder, a popular item in 19th century Brazil.
The maker 'TAP' is unknown to him, but with the above information in mind, perhaps another member has some thoughts?
Trev.
Re: Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)
Hi,
The maker "TAP" is Thomaz de Aquino Pereira 1831-1851.
Best regards,
Marcondes
The maker "TAP" is Thomaz de Aquino Pereira 1831-1851.
Best regards,
Marcondes
Re: Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)
Hi Marcondes,
Many thanks for taking the time to add the information to this topic. It's very much appreciated.
Trev.
Many thanks for taking the time to add the information to this topic. It's very much appreciated.
Trev.
Re: Origin of a silver statue (portuguese ?)
Hi Marcondes and dognose,
Thanks a lot Marcondes for this final identification!
Thanks also Dognose and other admins for this website: this identification, almost 7 years after my initial post, appears to me as a great example of its immense value!
Dinio
Thanks a lot Marcondes for this final identification!
Thanks also Dognose and other admins for this website: this identification, almost 7 years after my initial post, appears to me as a great example of its immense value!
Dinio