Mark ID Help

[raibos]

Trying to ID the mark, I'm guessing it's American. My interpretation is crown, fleur de lis, and diamond. Anyone recognize?

[Traintime]

It is possible that the outer marks are meaningless extras/others, leaving the fleur-de-lis as the maker's primary mark. If such, there are two American firms in here under symbols (and perhaps more not listed in this site): https://www.925-1000.com/americansilver__Icon2.html

The first one looks closer, but then again?