German and Swiss Pocket Watch Identification
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German and Swiss Pocket Watch Identification
Hello - I'm hoping someone could provide some more specific details about this watch. It appears to be pre-1933, with swiss movement (grouse mark) and German case (crown and moon). There is another marking that i cannot identify on the inside as well as some typical scratching. Any information would be great.
Re: German and Swiss Pocket Watch Identification
::: That rubbed hallmark is the "Grouse" hallmark seen on 800 silver watch cases from Switzerland :::::: I think the other rubbed hallmark is the number "800" at least I believe so. ::::::::
Here's some additional information that might explain the "METAL" hallmark:
""The bow, the ring on the pendant from which the watch can be suspended, had to be made from the same material as the outer case. If you have a gold or silver case and the bow is not of the same standard as the case, then it is a replacement. This is very common because the clip that was used to attach an Albert chain to the watch wore through the relatively soft gold or silver of the bow quite quickly.
It was permissible in Switzerland to use base metal for the cuvette of a watch case, the inner back cover that protects the movement when a key is being used to wind it. When it was made of copper and silver plated it was usually marked “Cuivre” (copper) or simply “Metal”. In a gold case, the cuvette might be silver gilt, marked “argent” to identify the metal below the gold plate.""
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Here's some additional information that might explain the "METAL" hallmark:
""The bow, the ring on the pendant from which the watch can be suspended, had to be made from the same material as the outer case. If you have a gold or silver case and the bow is not of the same standard as the case, then it is a replacement. This is very common because the clip that was used to attach an Albert chain to the watch wore through the relatively soft gold or silver of the bow quite quickly.
It was permissible in Switzerland to use base metal for the cuvette of a watch case, the inner back cover that protects the movement when a key is being used to wind it. When it was made of copper and silver plated it was usually marked “Cuivre” (copper) or simply “Metal”. In a gold case, the cuvette might be silver gilt, marked “argent” to identify the metal below the gold plate.""
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