Unidentified spoon marks - help please

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chipfat
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Unidentified spoon marks - help please

Post by chipfat »

Hello,

First time poster looking for any advice on the following spoon. I can't seem to find any record of these hallmarks, makers name or even country of manufacture. The top mark is very unclear, but looks like a bell with dots underneath. The next mark is a B with a W underneath; the next appears to be PA, then two wavy lines and the number 16. Photos will follow.

Thanks,

Jon

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Bahner
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Post by Bahner »

Hello, looks like old Norwegian silver. The flower is the city mark of Bergen. The “B” with a “w” is a warden’s mark. According to Tardy he was active in the 1810s and 1820ies. Follows what I believe to be the maker’s mark. No clue, though, sorry. The double zigzag line is the zodiac’s sign for Jan. 21st to Febr. 18th., which is the period when the piece was hallmarked. The 16 is most likely for the year 1816. It is probably not the Lötigkeit, as this would imply that pure silver was used, which is unlikely, as it is too soft. Best wishes, Bahner
chipfat
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Post by chipfat »

Many thanks for the swift reply. This particular spoon has been in the family for longer than anyone can remember so the information is most useful!

Jon
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Post by Hose_dk »

I have been going through my book of Norwegian silver (østlandet/east country) and Bergen is (naturally) not east. But sometimes people moove.
However I was not able to find anything that looked like this mark. I found some examples of year mark and I think that I can confirm 16 as a yearmark.

Normally Norwegian standard is 4 marks. Year mark is included in citymark. The standard was the same as in Denmark.
1. Guardein, 2. Citymark (with year), 3. monthmark (confirming that taxes had been paid) & 4. maker.

We must wait for the norwegian silver book volume II (Western Norway)
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Post by blakstone »

The warden "B" is Peter Michael Blytt, who was warden in Bergen from 1812 to 1821. The maker "PA" is Petter Gabriel Aasmundsen, who was granted a trade license in Bergen in 1801.

Hope this helps!
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